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Freedom by bloody-batterfly Freedom by bloody-batterfly
This from a neo conservative gun toting- death penalty- anti abortion- republican political whore... :D

I saw a bumper sticker a few days ago...it said and I quote: "If you cannot stand behind our troops; stand in front of them."

Amazing...a new use for the human shield.

anyway.... I know this is not going to be popular..but opinion and freedom to have one..is kinda what this country is supposed to stand for.

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my granddaughter...because her future and that of her father and uncles...is why I am such a big believer in finishing the damn job over in the middle east....


and the American Flag


I could get very political and abusive....but I really am trying to be a better person ....this week anyway.

comment away.....just try to do so with class and cognitive thought.

~Ana
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sdjea Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2006
i like this.
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bloody-batterfly Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2006
Thank you... I hope to do a few more with children and the flag...

I am glad you like it.
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gerhardt Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2006
You my dear lady are outspoken with eloquance. To the photo what we do today is what impacts the future of our children, we do the best we can yet they are the future and they depend on us. To this regard your point hits home. Enough said. Cheers my friend, Gerhardt
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bloody-batterfly Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2006
Thank you so much. I am so glad someone actually understood what it was I was saying. :hug:
There is nothing, in my mind, more important than making sure my children and grandchildren do not inherit the world as it stands today. I love them too much.
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gerhardt Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2006
No worries my friend. Cheers, Gerhardt
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SBV Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2006
This is,, a totaly awesome piece.

Looking over the comments on this, I can not help but go back to my analogy of "The good child, the bad child..." (If you really want to know what thats about,, note me.....)

I really get sick of hearing people complain about "This country" when in fact, they have never been anywhere but "This country..." Not living for long stents of time anyway.
I would love for someone to actually sit down and have a conversation with someone that had actually been in a prison camp in Natzi germeny during world war II. To actually hear what its was really like.
Yeah I agree that there is so much in this land of the free that is fucked up and needs to be fixed. But sitting there, sucking on the bottle of ignorance wishing it was all puppies and cupcakes with sprinkles isnt going to make it happen.
Just want to tell people sometimes ; "Shut your cake hole, weigh out the reality of the things in front of you.. And change what is wrong.. " People that stick their heads in the sand, and plug their ears and shout as loud as they can "I dont want it to be this way.. I want it to be full of love and joy." is going to just be more easy for the ones that hate them, to chop off their heads on some grainy video tape, and claim the blood for god.....
Bloody lollypops.....

Ok,, so,, just to make this clear, If anyone would like to respond to what I just said,, feel free to note me. I was just ranting :D
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bloody-batterfly Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2006
Thank you! I know what you mean and exactly how you feel!! :hug: :glomp:
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steward Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
I used to be a conservative death penalty- anti abortion- republican political whore...

But, you know, laws can be a two-edged sword. For example, if that amendment to protect the US Flag had been passed, the US Flag Code (still in the United States Code but currently unenforceable) would make your deviation above a Federal Offense. The American Flag - under law, but not under the current Constitution - is not stock, is not fodder for embossing on throwaway napkins, isn't something to display with a magnet on your car, etc.

As for the troops.. if the Government of the United States gave any thought to them, we would either cease operations immediately or supply them properly. We've been in Iraq now longer than the US was in the European part of WWII. Think of that. Think of all the planes, ships, etc. the American economy turned out - in a much less efficient manufacturing environment - and then ask yourself if defending freedom is letting the current administration use our troops as human fodder in a situation that doesn't affect us at all, without giving the slightest shrift to their safety; or if defending freedom is opposing the actions of an administration and a Congress which has given President Bush greater oppressive powers than the King of France had before the revolution of 1789.

I'm not sure what a neo-conservative is; from what I've seen, it tends to resemble the German government's philosophy in the late 1930's and early 1940's.

Ronald Reagan - who I voted for and would again, were he alive and hale - was a conservative. George H.W. Bush was a moderate.

George W. Bush... initiates wars of aggressions, kills the innocent, and ignores the advice of his military leaders - and turns such ignorance into deaths of our troops. Kinda like a German leader who thought fighting Britain and Russia at the same time was an intelligent idea. :)

The laws pushed through by the current administration... make freedom closer to extinction every day. If you slept through World History class, I suggest you look at the history of lettres de cachet.
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bloody-batterfly Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2006
I am sure they teach these things in "fairy camp" as you proport to attend; however, as laws can be a two edged sword, so too can bias.

What exactly is it about this manipulation bothers you more? Is it possibly that someone you do not even know has a different philosophy from your oh so enlightened one? I fail; quite honestly, to see much more than the usual ploys and plunders for making your own point come across.

A Constitutional Amendment to Prohibit Physical Desecration of the American Flag

"The Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States".

The language of the above provision is identical to the language contained in H.J. Resolution 54, the flag protection constitutional amendment which the House of Representatives adopted on June 12, 1997 by a vote of 310-114; on June 24, 1999 by a vote of 305-124; and on July 17, 2001 by a vote of 298-125.

(Now I am not sure, but methinks Bush was nothing but a Gov'n of Texas when this law was put to the books and proposed. perhaps you need to wake up from your magical slumber in history class as well...)

This work, as I realize now I must spell out slowly and with a great deal of pictures obviously.... is in no way intended to proclaim my support of the President, he lost that with immigration issues and his failure to support our troops in this conflict.

It is simply a statement of my own personal support for the men and women who are serving more combat time than any former military war in history. Yes, I know how to read and if you become offended by my comments, perhaps you should consider how you attempt to make points In such a condescending fashion.

By the way, if Bush were really like Hitler as you allude....then you would be gassed in some easy bake oven, because we all know (those of us who did not sleep in History class) that he persecuted gypsys, mentally ill, and handicapped people, in an attempt to cleanse the populace.
I believe "Last weekend, I attended a gathering of Reclaiming Tradition Witches from throughout North America - " would have earned you a front row seat in the ovens.

Bush has a lot of flaws, true, I am not one to defend him when he is doing something stupid, but likewise I am willing to defend my point and keep my gallery as tidy as I can...and unlike you; I am not going to allow unreasonable hatred of a man to guide me in my own personal journey to become a better person.

Have a good day.
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steward Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
>I am sure they teach these things in "fairy camp" as you proport to attend;

No, actually I learned them by reading books (over 2500 of them), newspapers, magazines, and during the attainment of 2 Associate's, 2 Bachelor's, and a Master's degree. The camps I attend are akin to a religious instructional convention, except they're held outside for the most part. Do you agree with President Bush that the Constitution is nothing but a piece of paper? Your ad hominem remark certainly makes it appear so.

> What exactly is it about this manipulation bothers you more?

I like the deviation. In fact, being one of the more conservative members of my chosen religious path, I love including quotes from Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan in list posts - quotes that many of my fellow Witches would not ever dream would come out of the mouth of a Republican President.

What bothers me is the spin you put on it in your post. You see, the deviation - in and of itself, devoid of commentary - could be taken either as endorsing the war in Iraq, or calling for the removal of troops from Iraq. That is one of the problems with the political 'spin' so often used in the United States - reminiscent of the warnings given by George Orwell in his book 1984. Your commentary on your own deviation included the statement (well, to be technical, sentence fragment):

"my granddaughter...because her future and that of her father and uncles...is why I am such a big believer in finishing the damn job over in the middle east...."

When George H.W. Bush invaded Iraq, it was in response to Iraq's violation of the sovereignty of another nation. GHWB pushed Iraq back where it belonged, and got the hell out.

When George W. Bush invaded Iraq, it was a violation of the sovereignty of another nation, just like Iraq's actions towards Kuwait in Gulf War I. The only job to be accomplished in the Middle East is to abandon it and get the hell out of there.

> Now I am not sure, but methinks Bush was nothing but a Gov'n of Texas when this law was put to the books and proposed.

Maybe you need to read more of current events; the Constitutional Amendment to which I refer was defeated in June of this year, see http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/27/flag.burning/index.html. In any case, I was clearly not referring to Bush there, but to the Congress, as the President has no part in whether or not the Constitution is amended; that is left solely to the Congress and to the legislatures of the several States.

> This work, as I realize now I must spell out slowly and with a great deal of pictures obviously....
> is in no way intended to proclaim my support of the President, he lost that with immigration issues and his failure to
> support our troops in this conflict.

You portray yourself in your commentary as a neo-conservative Republican who wants to "finish the job". The only person who can get the job finished in the next two years - unless he's impeached and convicted - is President Bush. In short, your commentary is greatly at odds with your statement quoted above.

> By the way, if Bush were really like Hitler as you allude....then you would be gassed in some easy bake oven

The trick isn't catching the tyrant at the apex of his power; the trick is catching him before that happens. Churchill had read Mein Kampf and had warned against trusting Hitler for years before the invasion of Poland; Chamberlain shamelessly allowed Hitler to do whatever he pleased - to the great advancement of Hitler's power and the great pain of Britain.

> unreasonable hatred of a man

One of my 4th grade teachers, Sister Erasmus, would occasionally actually bare her forearm - so that we students could see the number that had been tattooed there.

And now the Congress and the President have passed a law allowing the President, in his sole discretion, to declare any person an "enemy combatant", without public judicial review, and hold such a person in confinement at the President's pleasure.

Unreasonable hatred? I think not.

So... since you are in favor of "finishing things" in Iraq, but you've made it clear that you don't support the President's actions - and given that Bush will be President and Commander-in-Chief for the next two years - exactly what do you mean by finishing things? We know that neither Bush nor Rumsfeld can be counted on to give the troops the support they need. One way to finish things would be to just pull out of Iraq in toto, which could be accomplished by the House of Representatives refusing to vote funding for any operations in Iraq. A bit extreme, true, but within our system of laws, and Bush's track record on supporting the troops (not!), do you see any other alternatives?
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